Anders Andersen

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  Strange first names among jw's

  by fulano in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  do you remember those families where all the sons and daughters had weird biblical names?.

  i recall a " machlon" , "eunice" , even a "jehosafath".

  can you believe it..

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  Anders Andersen

  Yep.

  Funny thing: My daughter has a somewhat Biblical name, but we only found out after we liked it.
  We got her name from a TV series (with spies and guns and fights lol), and like both the sound and the meaning.

  So when we thought that must be the name, I started a search to see if that name means anything weird or despicable in other languages, or maybe there is a criminal or terrorist or evil organisation with that name. Basically to prevent accidentally naming her the equivalent of Dick, Adolf, Isis or Watchtower.

  That's when I found out that it's actually also a Biblical word, and even with a nice meaning too! Well six months later I became a pomo atheist, but it's funny that we accidentally gave our daughter a Biblical(lish) name (it's not used as a name in the Bible)
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Anders Andersen

  Oh lol I should have looked up ARC case 54 instead of 29.

  This is definitely a real letter. This very same letter in deposited as evidence with the ARC:

  
  

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/CORR.0375.001.0001.pdf

  Full text for those who have a hard time reading it:

  Dear Brothers:

  We are seeking your direction in responding to the Royal Commission hearing into the Institutional Response to Child Abuse held last year and the anticipated soon-to-be-released final report from the commissioners. The request herein is to show the Royal Commission that we have acted on some of the recommendations made during the hearing. We are hopeful that by doing so, this may soften the final report of the commissioners and minimize any likelihood of having representatives of the branch being called back again to a further hearing before the commissioners.

  Our request is to make available to the Royal Commission the letter to All Bodies of Elders dated August 1, 2016 re. Protecting Minors From Abuse and the S-66 document provided to Branch Committees and Service Desk overseers. We appreciate the confidential nature of both documents, but also recognize that it may not take too long a time before these documents find their way to the Internet. It seems to us that by the branch providing both documents to the Royal Commission; it will show that we have done what is reasonable in the way of satisfying some of the policy matters that comply with both their thinking and ours, where they do not compromise Scriptural standards. No doubt it will be much better if the Commission receives this information from the branch, rather than from apostate opposers.

  However, in making this request we are glad to follow whatever direction you may provide. Thank you for considering this request. Please be assured of our warmest Christian love and best wishes.

  Your brother,

  For the Australasia Branch Committee
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Anders Andersen

  Ah, and now I found where I saw this letter before.

  It was already discussed at JWsurvey last year september: http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/jehovahs-witnesses-release-new-child-abuse-reporting-policy-net-result-business-usual

  I guess this is old news then, not fake news ;-)

  Anyway the way the branch approaches the issue is despicable. They really don't care about the victims, they only care about whether they'll be 'dragged before a magistrate' for their misdeeds.
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Anders Andersen

  A I found an even better example that matches the format of the letter we're discussing perfectly:

  

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  Source: Royal Commission evidence, https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0004.001.0058.pdf
  See also
  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0002.001.0013.pdf
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Anders Andersen

  For those who cry fake: apparently letters from branches to HQ do not carry the letterhead.

  See this example: letter from branch Australia to HQ:

  Letterhead

  

  Ending:

  
  

  Source: official evidence of Royal Commission: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0004.001.0010.pdf
  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0004.001.0014.pdf
  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0012.001.0009.pdf
  A different example:
  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0012.001.0011.pdf

  Even HQ doesn't carry a Watchtower letterhead when writing to branches:
  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0012.001.0016.pdf

  Yes I see it still looks different than the letter discussed in this topic, but at least the missing Watchtower letterhead doesn't mean it's a fake.
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  Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

  wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

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  Anders Andersen

  1. for those who find the letter is blurry: that's because this forum resizes pictures depending on your screen size. If you're on a mobile device, check the option 'get desktop site' or 'desktop mode' if your browser can do that, it will help.
  2. I think this letter was around a long time ago already?
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  JW’s do NOT shun... (apprently)

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my quora campaign of answering all jw related questions truthfully with evidence is going well.

  however, one jw had the audacity to claim that "jws do not shun".

  they seem to want to present a fake, squeeky clean image to non-members and seem to get angry when answering questions regarding shunning.. like this asshole, dennis cybulski.

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  Anders Andersen

  I'm deliberately becoming the bane of their Quora presence.

  They block me from commenting one by one. It's like a badge of honor.

  I have the same...whenever I find a new zealot I poke the bear a bit. But what really irritates me are those who already disabled comments on everything, and are clearly out to recruit new victims for their cult instead of simply sharing their POV. Preying on the sad and downtrodden, whitewashing their despicable policies.

  Ah well. Every now and then I manage to help someone rethink their association with Jw, and that is worth quite a lot of annoyances.

  Confirmed score so far: 1 elder, 1 Bible study working towards baptism, 1 Bible study.
  
  
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  JW’s do NOT shun... (apprently)

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my quora campaign of answering all jw related questions truthfully with evidence is going well.

  however, one jw had the audacity to claim that "jws do not shun".

  they seem to want to present a fake, squeeky clean image to non-members and seem to get angry when answering questions regarding shunning.. like this asshole, dennis cybulski.

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  Anders Andersen

  Ugh Quora is overrun by overzealous JW who think the internet is their preaching ground. Some of them are really, really Fing obnoxious.

  Won't be long before I quit the whole site.
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  The Football Game Illustration.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  run!!!

  run!!!

  just run .

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  Anders Andersen

  I heard this very same illustration at the international convention in Dortmund 2009. Also by Geoffrey Jackson. Back then I was quite touched by the illustration lol.

  I guess he noticed this thing works well in keeping folks attached and donating a bit longer, and he's recycling it.
  
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  192-page books

  by Fred Franztone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my 192nd post, so i thought it'd be fitting to ask a somewhat banal question which i've occasionally pondered over the years.

  does anyone know what's behind the wt's penchant for 192-page books?

  is there some kind of logistical reason for this?

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  Anders Andersen

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_%28bookbinding%29